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Old 02-14-2012, 12:12 AM   #1
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So...I didn't realize 3 years ago that this build was going to take about 8 years ;0/
...without thinking ahead properly, back then, I integrated a Lowrance Airmap 600c GPS into my panel, see pic below. Now I am looking at it, and thinking 'by the time I fly, that GPS will look like a 1960's valve TV'..so, I am thinking of removing the GPS, blanking the space off (nicely), and using that space for say, a clip-on notepad, and buy a newer GPS later on that would not be integrated in any way...thoughts?



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Old 02-14-2012, 12:42 AM   #2
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Those types of instruments I'd never install in my panel for the reasons you stated...once outdated, the new version isn't going to fit so well.

For the record, I love my IFly GPS. You can update it daily and you'll have all the current actual charts and more importantly, any TFR's that might have popped up overnight.

I have mine right below the panel above my right leg. No problems with it in that spot. My panel is a slight different shape than yours.




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Old 02-14-2012, 12:54 AM   #3
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It'll still get you from pt A to pt B, leave it alone.

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Old 02-14-2012, 12:54 AM   #4
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Hence my argument for two LED screens. Modify sensors and input as required. 2 Ipads maybe?

I agree with Brad. Get it flying. If you want to change it later you already have power (and an antenna?) to that hole. Unless you are going to redo the whole panel, leave well enough alone.


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Old 02-14-2012, 01:08 AM   #5
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Ditch it and just mount it or another gps where it's removable. Looks good how you did it but outdated. Kinda like my 172 with a big ugly loran in the panel.

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Old 02-14-2012, 01:09 AM   #6
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Don't rub it in [img]smileys/smiley18.gif[/img]

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Old 02-14-2012, 03:09 AM   #7
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What's the best GPS for a crowded S1S cockpit? I've heard the Garmin 96C is good, anyone tried the Aera 500?

Perhaps I'll stick to the iPhone

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An airmap 600c...

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Old 02-14-2012, 04:00 AM   #9
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It's WAY better than a loran. You could go anywhere in the U.S. with that and be better off than 99% of the flights that have made successful trips over the history of flying. For that matter better than most DC 9s until just a couple of years ago.

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GPS will always get you there.

Can you get updates for one you currently have? Seattle's Class B just changed completely.

If you're not planning on flying into any large metro areas, yours will probably be fine for a long time to come.

I live/fly inside the Seattle Class B, but the new changes actually work better for me than the old airspace.


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A iPhone mount would look good there. I got a 696 for sale if you want to make some extra room. Wing x and iPhone are pretty aresome.

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Function wise, it is fine. I just want a cool looking panel..a lot of effort went into it, so I want it 'right'. I still think it looks ok, but in 2 years time, when it flies, that GPS will be 7 years old.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:34 AM   #13
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This is why I encourage my kit builders and clients to decide what the paint scheme will be like before they decide on the instrument panels. Like computers, you can't buy avionics before they are obsolete.

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Thats probably a good little unit you have. Most high end gps's now have so many features you will never use them. I love my ipad/iphone because I can have my map looking just like the sectional chart. To tell you the truth my favorite two gps units are the old Garmin GPS III pilot and the 196. They do what you need them to and thats it. The best feature in my opinion is that they use AA batteries.

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I believe Lowrance is out of the aviation GPS market....updates still available?

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Looks cool to me Beej.

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I believe Lowrance is out of the aviation GPS market....updates still available?
You are correct, I have a 600C as well. Love the unit but it's now orphaned.
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This from the Lei site:
Discontinued Aviation Products -<strong style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(52, 61, 70); font-family: Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif; ">Jeppesen Database Updates for AirMap 500, 600, 1000 and 2000c are no longer available.[/b]

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Selling it. Still a bargain!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=160737337686#ht_50 0wt_1413

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Beej,
Your getting as bad as me with this ebay crap.
I am about to list a 696 on there unless you want to make room in that panel for it :-)

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Using a Garmin Aera 560 in the Pitts. No remote or additional antenna. Limited battery life but I plug it to a/c power.
Pic on older thread Cockpit

I think for the flying we do and our planes that just an iPhone would do fine. Good gps receiver, cheap, good battery, bright display.

Both will guide your rental car around, but the Garmin can't make a phone call.

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Keep in mind that an iPhone and iPad will look ridiculously outdated in a few years. The older style iPhones already look a bit dated compared to the 4 or 4S. I still have a Lowrance AirMap 500, and I'm not getting rid of it -- airports don't shift around too much, and it's still vastly better than flying cross-country unaided. And I can't justify $1500 on a GPS when I've only used the one I've got a couple dozen times (I don't pull it out for local sightseeing or pattern work).

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Keep in mind that an iPhone and iPad will look ridiculously outdated in a few years. "

I'm more of a "form after function" guy myself. But... I'm trying to use an older Magellan to drive a nav program on my laptop as a backup nav system for my boat. Had an awful time finding a driver to send the NEMA signal to a WIN7 program. You would think they could at least keep these things talking to themselves. I don't care what it looks like. I just want the darn thing to work.




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