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Old 12-06-2017, 04:35 AM   #26
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Just come buy one of the Eagles.... Did your buddy buy the Skybolt?
I would love to. Just not the right time. My buddy is going to look this weekend.


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Old 12-06-2017, 04:42 AM   #27
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Stardusters are a great Airplane!!! I love aviation and wonít let this turn me off from GA flying. Just sucks somebody built this then said it was something it wasnít. I thought aviation held us all to a higher standard. Expensive lesson I guess.


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Old 12-06-2017, 08:34 AM   #28
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Yea, the thing about the Three Fs..
Most of us don't want to deal with some "others" Beer Can floating around the bilge.
About the same feeling about the Boat and the Plane too.

just sayin
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Old 12-06-2017, 09:54 AM   #29
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Hahahaha. Love it!!
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I'd like to point out that this Acro was purchased as a project by hangar neighbors of mine. It was complete except for finish work and details. Firewall foward was complete and was beautifully done. I did some tail up taxi tests on it and saw one of the test flights. Jeff is right, it is an exceptionally "straight" airplane with no bad habits. The engine was very peppy with excellent throttle response every time I was in it or saw it fly. It's important to note that the sellers did no internal engine work and saw no indication of problems when they had the aircraft. I hope Jeff can get it worked out because its a beautiful airplane.

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Thanks Steve, not sure how this engine ended up like this. But it definetly had some serious issues. I have a 0 SMOH O360 found and hopefully a mount. I will install my fuel injection and possibly be flying it again soon. It is a hands off straight and level flying Airplane. Will be nice to fly it not feeling scared sh:!less the engine will fail at any moment.
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Old 12-06-2017, 04:00 PM   #32
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The restore was really done very nice. I have added a bunch more stuff like the prop, vinyl wrap, fuel injection, and a bunch more but it’s hard to find a aircraft with this type of detail. Just sucks somebody jacked with the motor.
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Old 12-06-2017, 04:04 PM   #33
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The restore was really done very nice. I have added a bunch more stuff like the prop, vinyl wrap, fuel injection, and a bunch more but itís hard to find a aircraft with this type of detail. Just sucks somebody jacked with the motor.
What prop did you put on this?

One thing I can add is if you were building one from scratch, you would have probably spent a whole lot more than you have now and still might not be flying yet. I can state that pretty much as a fact.
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Old 12-06-2017, 04:13 PM   #34
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I do understand that for sure!! I installed a 3 blade catto.
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Old 12-06-2017, 04:25 PM   #35
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that catto looks better than white with red tips.........
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You should have yours painted to match!!
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Are you selling off the old engine?
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Parting the old engine out. I believe the salvageable parts are spoken for. I will find out the status this week.
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This was the day that I went up to Johnson City, TN to pick up the plane for Jeff (Sonnydog). I ferried it to my place in Lebanon, TN until he could either pick it up, or it could get ferried up to Indy.

I remember all the guys being true gentlemen to deal with there at Johnson City. Looking over the airplane I was impressed with the attention to detail [both on the airframe and firewall forward]. Had I only known what was going in INSIDE the engine, I might have gone back home. Without the benefit of that knowledge however, I hopped in. The only thing I noticed with the engine was that the throttle was not linear in acceleration, at all. You could idle with the throttle pulled back but with only slight movement of the lever, the engine would accelerate quickly, then flatten off as the lever went to full throttle. The plane flew straight and true, only noticing that some of the flying wires had a buzz in flight. Landings were a dream...pretty much like a Decathlon...very stable in flare and rollout.

I sincerely hope we can all help Jeff find an engine solution to this plane. It's a great-flying machine.

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O-235 exhaust valves really throws me. You have to really work at that one. I dont know how you bend a lifter either.
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I reread and he said the pushrod was bent which makes better sense. But yea the valve seems strange.
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I would think, HOPE. Even if it IS experimental, that who ever highly modified the Engine or WHATEVER is markedly different from norm. THEY WOULD TELL ANYONE that gets in it, buys it or flies the thing.

I guess the folks that owned it MIGHT NOT have known "Frankensteinish" assembly in the engine.

I can understand if I am RENTING something. Someone forgets to tell me "there's a Beer Can floating in the Bilge" but this isn't a Beer Can... Maybe there is a sort of Build Log for the Engine that was lost..
My guess is someone pieced it together from "Stuff" and doesn't/didn't know it's full pedigree. I guess THAT is not something to brag about.. "I Pieced that engine together from left over "stuff" I found in the Bilge" Makes you wonder.. Glad you found a suitable engine!

Keep your Bilges Clean Folks!
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Engines in E-AB aircraft have been and still are in some cases a gray area. We would like to think that complete information is passed on to new owners but some times we find the exact opposite, the absolute minimum is recorded usually for liability reasons. Fact is only the airframe log operative for annual condition inspection. Engine logs should be kept(I guess?) but do NOT, repeat do not have to be endorsed by the mechanic on the annual inspection. One may or MAY NOT have complete engine records especially on an older build.

Buyer beware.
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I knew a guy that thought he was buying a good engine. He tore it down after it wouldn't make oil pressure and found "For Training Use Only" etched on the connecting rods.
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I appreciate all the responses to my post. Once I get a good motor on this bird, I am going to have my mechanic buddies go over every last inch of this Airplane and enjoy the crap out of it. If and when I decide to buy another experimental aircraft someday, I know I won’t make this mistake of letting looks drive the sale. This aircraft is one cleanest restored birds I have ever seen but had I had a thourgral pre buy on the engine done, it would have thrown some red flags. Big one being the data plate on the case had been removed. I didn’t catch that. Is what it is and I’m close to having a really expensive, but awesome Acrosport 1


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