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Old 04-18-2017, 11:56 AM   #26
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Being Experimental is best of the two worlds. You don't have to comply with stupid FAA Ad's only ones that are a real safely issue. You can modify her to your hearts content and not worry about FAA approvals.
I completely agree that for many of us E-AB is the best way to go. Except for my ability to work on them and do my own annuals(with help from a real mechanic when necessary) I would not be able to afford to fly. I can also make modifications w/o FAA approval in most cases.

But AD's are another matter. According to the FAA in my neighborhood, both the MIDO and FSDO and my DAR, EVERY AD that applies to each and every certified component on my aircraft must be complied with. Indeed it is by AD compliance that the E-AB airworthiness certificate is issued.

That said, there are FAA offices and/or inspectors that have a different opinion. And also because of the fact of legally modified components, in many cases AD compliance becomes problematic in some cases. Therefore absolute black & white sometimes turns into shades of gray.

Again, as I recall my E-AB operating limitations state that AD's will be complied with.

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Old 04-18-2017, 07:40 PM   #27
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One word of advice for anyone wanting to buy this plane check to see if the wings are Pitts or Christen Eagle. My experimental amateur build Pitts S-2 (registered by the builder as S-2BE) was advertised as factory fuselage and factory wing kits for the build. Only after I bought the plane did I discover the receipts were for Christen Eagle wing kits. Factory yes but not Pitts wings as I assumed. Early Eagle wings have an issue with drag/ati-drag wire anchor blocks on the rear spar. An improvement was made in 1984 to fix the problem and luckily mine was a later kit that had the update. Otherwise no problem with Eagle wings except they are rated for slightly lower aerobatic weight. If I'm flying typical S-2B aerobatic max weight I have to stay at or below 5.5g rather than 6.0g due to the eagle wings.

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When I was considering the S-2BE one of my questions was the wings and the higher gross weight. I did some research but never really found an answer about whether or not the factory made changes to the wings when the gross weight of the S-2B was going to be higher than the S-2A. The only parts manual I have is new enough to show that the wings are shared between the A and B models. What I needed was an old (pre-B model) parts manual but I never found one.

The safe thing is to do what you're doing and assume the wings were beefed up for the B model and lower the G limit accordingly.
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I wasn't in the market...but this thing certainly makes me want to be.
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People are strange. If this airplane was $65,000 it would probably be sold already. People see it listed for $45,000 and think it is a problem airplane. I bet if I go buy it and raise the price $20,000 it will sell.
Folks always want cheap but end up buying expensive??? LOL!
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People are strange. If this airplane was $65,000 it would probably be sold already. People see it listed for $45,000 and think it is a problem airplane. I bet if I go buy it and raise the price $20,000 it will sell.
Folks always want cheap but end up buying expensive??? LOL!
I don't know how 'cheap' this is for a 2E? I think it's about the right price.
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I don't know how 'cheap' this is for a 2E? I think it's about the right price.
I could sell it for $65 :-)
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I bet high low price has to do with who is selling. Pig probably has a good reputation for those things. People believe his valuation.
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Not that I'd part with her, but people have offered me $60k for my 2-E and I paid much less for it.
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I could sell it for $65 :-)

That 20k margin would go a long ways toward buying you a complete airplane instead of the Breezy.
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That 20k margin would go a long ways toward buying you a complete airplane instead of the Breezy.
I have 3 complete airplanes already and a Breezy :-)
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Relisted:

http://www.barnstormers.com/classifi...ittsa+S2E.html

Looks like it has logbook issues.
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I'd jump on it if I didnt already have a 2E
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Being Experimental is best of the two worlds. You don't have to comply with stupid FAA Ad's only ones that are a real safely issue. You can modify her to your hearts content and not worry about FAA approvals.
gots some kind of repairman certificate does ya? since you didn't get one for building it.
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You only need a certificated individual for the annual condition inspection. Anyone can do the regular maintenance and minor alterations. Just do good work.

Best of luck,

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