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Old 09-07-2017, 09:30 PM   #501
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would require surgery to cut into the wing for it to clear........


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Old 09-07-2017, 09:50 PM   #502
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How did you attach the spade bracket to the lower aileron? (Imagine if I show up in the Range Duster at a contest. And it had spades. I'd win simply from everyone being confused? &#128513


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Same as pitts/eagle. Bolted to aileron arm. Picks up pushrod bolt, and add another above it....I'll get pics.
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1 - A flat aluminum plate will flex. That is why the Pitts spades are bent on the edges. Flexing will result in fatigue cracks at the screw holes. And it can cause transient changes in the control feel as the aerodynamics change. Probably won't notice that. Extra spades have core with fiberglass or carbon faces and so are much stiffer.

2 - Spades are powerful enough on the bottom ailerons and they are connected directly to the control system. This means less slop, vibration, and flutter potential. Fewer parts is good. And folks with poorly tuned spades on the lower ailerons already complain loudly about their sloppy control feel. Trying to tune 4 spades makes finding the sweet spot even harder. And its already voodoo to most guys.

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yea, I made these flat out of .090 2024 T3. I believe the pitts ones are .050 or .063 and bent. as someone noted previously these will not be aluminum forever, these are test pieces till I get the shape I want......... good info wes and thanks for the drawings. the arms fit perfectly and the dimensions were spot on.
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Good on ya for being the coolest uncle in the neighbourhood!
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There are two schools of thought out there on spade shapes. Steve Grohsmeyer was experimenting with increasing the aspect ratio to get greater efficiency on his Eigenhawk. Rob Holland got together with a west coast aerodynamicist who also flys competition and after some calculation they put oval shaped, low aspect ratio spades on his ship. Rob really likes how they feel.

And if you want a little yaw-roll coupling on your ship to make flying cross-country a little easier, cant the spades a little inboard tip down.

Its voodoo.

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Did I hear someone say carbon fiber spades? Smizo? You gonna let that one go?
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Hey Dan, yep that's the plan soon as I get the ones that work best.......

this mysterious oval shape wes speaks of....... is there photos?
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I'm kind of curious too. I practice with Steve every now and then. I'll try to remember to ask him about them.
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So had a special visitor this weekend! Took Mr Neil Sidders and his lovely wife out for a great steak dinner last night. Now up at the hanger and having the pleasure of Neil going over my plane! Thanks for the visit Neil!IMG_3700.jpg
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Very nice.
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What are your future plans for her? New wings?
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at some point yes. I have a whole pile of wings to build here at work, and I want to get the Russian thing flying before I start on the new wings for the ASIIS. so for now I'm just going to enjoy flying my 7 years worth of work....... it needs a few things this winter. acro sight, landing gear leg to fuselage fairings, may streamline the gear strut tubes and springs as well as the horizontal stab braces. see if I can get another 1/2 mph out of it.......
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Yeah that 1/2 mph would be so worth it!!! But I can't say a thing as I'm looking at fairings for Miss Smith. However I think most of this winter maintenance will be welding up, painting wheel pants, and fitting new pant mounts as the existing doesn't like the high speed for aero. That or they don't like the 100's of take off and landings.
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Took the ol ASIIS on a mission up and over the Catskills to Columbia County NY to do a prepurchase / condition insp on a super eagle. Dan also needed a mission today so braved the cold for a nice flight. Formed up on him on the climb out home and his bird looks good in the air! (No pics) anyways it was 18 deg at 5,500. The no heat ASIIS was a non issue. Put my pants in my socks so the draft didnt blow up, wore flight gloves a sweatshirt, light jacket and was fine. Turns out my this thing is pretty draft free except one that comes from the back and hits my neck! So, Got a great way to preheat the plane. Stopped by and bought a very small space heater at Walmart for 10 bucks. 250w and fits right up in my exhaust Tunnel. Then it sets on the collector aiming at the oil sump. Got the oil and engine compartment from 29 deg to 55 deg in 45 mins. Then I fired up the torpedo heater and pointed it at the nose. That got the engine to 80. This was my first go at cold wx ops. This winter Im gonna glue a reiff heat pad on. This will help along with the space heater and they are the best option I have found........ now that I know it is bareable in the cold! It actually makes a decent XC bird, 5500, 140 mph, 9.5 GPH. Oh........and the super eagle is a monster!
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Biplane city, looks fun! I'm sure that eagle goes, I just read it has 330 hp on the eagle fourm.
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Nice pictures. Wish I could say my ASII was warm. Open CP is COLD! Snow machine suit and Bonehead Helmet makes 30 tolerable
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Sorry dude, 60f is my low limit.
Fortunately that doesn't pose too many limitations on me down here in Savannah.
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As a side note the draft is the same with open cockpit (front covered) only draft is around the neck. Interesting.
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Chris, get a gator neck warmer, I call them neckies, and that's like putting a scarf on. I used them all the time when I used to snowmobile with a snow cross helmet. Now "I" have to work on my feet! I tried the warmer packets and they get too hot in only one spot. I'm looking for some electric socks. And Smizo, 30 seconds of formation before you turned for home course isn't nearly enough time. We gotta do more of that!
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Dan, you’re on! Would have stuck around longer but you were going the wrong way!

I’m suprized how draft free it is. Only have a few small holes the air can come in through.


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