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Old 10-31-2017, 12:02 AM   #301
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Coming along Ray.

Look at the weather forecasts, choose your time of day for the peak temperatures.
Even if you will have to take a day off work to get it done. I am sure they will understand

What top coat paint are you going to use?


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Ray,
Do you have supplied air hood to spray?
If not you can borrow ours.


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Thanks, Eric. I'm using the Superflite system... it's all urethane. So far I really like the way the product has performed. I'm looking forward to spraying the color to see how it flows.

Dennis, I do. I was going to use the disposable respirators, but I figured by the time I'm done with the painting I would pay for a fresh air system. I took a ride up to Hampshire and met with Jan from Axis Air and bought one of her systems. Nice lady.
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Ray, seems I am right behind you. Paint next. Let us know how you get on spraying in the vertical, as I am wrestling as to which way is best....
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I'm thinking you're still several months ahead of me, Beej. The fuselage is stashed away in a hangar on the other side of the airport, and I still have to cover that and the surfaces. I just really wanted to get the covered wings in primer to protect the covering from dirt, UV, etc. Don and I were discussing it, and kind of came to the conclusion that being as the booth is already built around the upper wing, just keep going through the color being as I'll have to disassemble the booth to get that upper wing out. It's easy enough to stash the booth parts away while I finish up the fuselage.. because actually the 4 wing racks that I built for rigging the ship are now performing secondary duty as the primary wall structure for the booth. I just spaced them out and screwed some 12 foot 2x2's between them to help support the plastic and the light fixtures.
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Looking great! Good idea on the use of the cheap engine stands.
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I realize it takes some practice but vertical works very well. That is how we paint everything bigger than a horizontal stab. Practice on other things before your prize.
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I'll have to either be a little faster with the gun, or back off on the fluid needle a bit. I typically start off a little fast anyway as I watch the paint film flow out... watching the reflection of the light..
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Only could get one half of the second coat done today due to time constraints, but I'm liking spraying the wings in this orientation. No runs, no sags, and no reaching over the whole distance of the chord while spraying. Almost no dirt. The only thing to watch for is the top of the pressure hood coming into contact with the wing of you lean too much forward trying to catch the light reflection while you're spraying.
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The temps made it up to 51 yesterday, and stayed that way till well into the evening hours. The humidity levels were around 90%. I'm glad that I took the shot and got the second half of the second crosscoat laid down because I'm looking at a forecast of some much cooler weather for the next week. I'm thinking that'll be alright because I'll have plenty of time to get the wings wet sanded and masked off for the start of some color if we get a bit of warmer weather in the next week or two. No pictures, because it would look exactly the same as the last one
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Just looked and your looking at warmer weather, high 40's, later next week. Hope so flying the bipe in cooler weather but not cold is way fun!
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I'm really getting tired of wet sanding
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Yea, it's a PITA, but you'll be happy with the results!
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I'm really getting tired of wet sanding
Keep the water warm and chew some gum

See this as a no pressure period, at least your not wracking your brain over something. Your taking some time off
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Yeah, I know... preparation is the key, right?

Eric, I wish I could keep that water warm.. but this time of year I'm just happy it hasn't frozen solid in the hangar when I get out there to work
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Yeah, I know... preparation is the key, right?

Eric, I wish I could keep that water warm.. but this time of year I'm just happy it hasn't frozen solid in the hangar when I get out there to work
I feel for you.
Long time ago I was an apprentice at a small bodyshop, in Wales.
Not well equipped and drafty etc. Anyway back in those days it was only wet sanding (no dry sanding paper or equipment available at that time).
In the dead of winter mornings I had to spike the ice on top of the water bucket to empty it for some hot water to start the day off. Even the chamois was brittle.
Aaah the good old days!
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I'm liking the ultrafine 3m scuff pads for working the tapes over the ribs and inside the aileron wells..even after wet sanding the whole wing, i'm going over it with the a scuff pad. I like the way the Superflex is laying out, but I wish it had a little denser color.. it's obvious that multiple passes are truly necessary to achieve the proper color density/coverage so that the White primer isn't visible through even a dark color like Insignia Blue. Maybe it's just the nature of a paint that's made to stay flexible for many years? More pigment might allow it to become more brittle sooner?
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I'm liking the ultrafine 3m scuff pads for working the tapes over the ribs and inside the aileron wells..even after wet sanding the whole wing, i'm going over it with the a scuff pad. I like the way the Superflex is laying out, but I wish it had a little denser color.. it's obvious that multiple passes are truly necessary to achieve the proper color density/coverage so that the White primer isn't visible through even a dark color like Insignia Blue. Maybe it's just the nature of a paint that's made to stay flexible for many years? More pigment might allow it to become more brittle sooner?
Dark colors can be transparent.

Blue is one of 'em. The old fashioned dirty colors are good covering. The clean bright colors are transparent (that's what makes them clean and bright) Red , yellow , blue = primary colors

In the car repair trade they use colored or tinted sealers to combat this. The sealer is like a adhesion primer and one thin coat application.

If they don't want to use a "colored sealer" then they like to use a medium to darkish grey primer. Of course a white primer/undercoat if they are spraying a white top coat color, white can be/is a transparent top coat color
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Well... I guess my Red should end up nice and bright then!


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