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Old 09-26-2017, 11:14 PM   #76
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Latest progress.

Day one, yesterday, was the commencement of framing and ended with all walls up. Some snafus where found in the plans. The porch concrete piers were poured to same elevation as foundation top (exactly as the plans were drawn, I missed it) That made the porch piers too tall by 8 inches. Fortunately I know a guy with a concrete saw.

I thought I worked until 10 pm, as it was very hot, and put the tools away after dark, it was only 8 pm. Felt like an early July evening, yet the last days of September are upon us.

Today was work on sheeting the walls, and get the trusses up, and cut the porch piers shorter with the concrete saw I borrowed last night.

What an event that was. No crane or telehandler to be had for less than $800 said and done.

Luckily a farmer down the road has a telehandler sitting by his barn...well a country deal was done and the telehandler was in my yard by 2 pm. All but the dormer trusses are up.

I do not have a picture of the machine in action, but it was fun to operate.

As the day was wrapping up, the windows were delivered, need to be put away. No one felt like carrying them across the yard after all the heat, 32C/89F, so they got temporarily installed for the night. No they won't fall out....save making room in the garage and carrying them twice.

Done for the day with sun setting.....


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Old 09-27-2017, 04:00 AM   #77
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Ryan we get $200/hr. and up for a crane to set those trusses. Good on you, I'm envious.


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Donít even think about using fluorescent lights. The latest generation of LED bay lights are fantastic. The quality of light is so much better than fluorescent and the price point is at the point now that if you consider energy use and bulb replacement itís a no brainer. I installed them in a hangar I just finished last year and couldnít be happier.
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I just swaped out my 8' fluorescents for LED's last week, they are soooo much better. I really like the lumens in white and not that flikering yellow.
Bought from Michigans Craigslist $30 each for a 4', 3800 lumen ceiling fixture. My shop is 26'x42' with a 10' ceiling. I have 4 rows, 10 fixtures each, of LED's. They come with a 6" wire to connect light to light.
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second the LED choice. we have all LED in our hanger and in all the shop rooms. great choice..... as well as a mostly white hanger interior its like daylight in here......
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Thanks for the input guys. Too tired to write much tonight, and this is my vacation!
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Only thing to watch on going with LED's is color temperature. Some are pretty "warm" and can make it hard to see close details when working, or play havoc with color matching.
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I have double bulb 8' fluorescent lighting spaced 6' apart on a 10' ceiling. I am in the process of switching to LED. Much more light and much cheaper to operate.
Do LED bulbs fit the old fittings?
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@Beej - there are now LED bulbs available that fit the old fixture. The important thing to note is that you must also rewire the fixture to bypass the ballast and just feed 120V into the LED tube. They are the cheapest option - you can find them on eBay for about $10 a piece.

I just updated my hangar to LED. $350 for 25x 8' tubes (integrated units, rather than standalones - as I didn't have fluorescent fixtures to start with), more than enough light.
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John, The enclosed photo is the inside of a 4' LED light. There are no bulbs. In a 48" fixture there are 96 sets of the little "dots" that are actually the bulbs. I laid a 1/4" end wrench by them for a size reference.
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Wow what a workshop. It is a large as my house.
My first workshop was large enough so I assemble my homebuilt inside.
Not much larger so when assembled I had just enough room to walk around her fully assembled.
My hat is off to you in your new Man-Cave.
The best times I had was late at night all alone with my thoughts.
Also you can not enough lights. I made one with a neon lamp with roller on the vertical to move around
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Dennis I have spent many an evening sitting alone with my bird, deep in thought while I consume what I know to be my last adult beverage, as I contemplate the future!
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Still going hard at it.

I have been incredibly fortunate with the weather. Hot and dry for end of September-beginning of October. I can't hold summer months off with my Sr., but who cares with weather like this!

I have services trench dug. Supper nice neighbour owns a backhoe and dropped in after work and dug a 5 foot trench.

Sure enough as the trench was been completed, I got an unexpected phone call.

The stone mason called and said that he would be over in the morning.
So, the trench that was just dug, had to be filled back in at the shop foundation, so the mason would not have to opportunity to fall in it!

Next I had to send a plea in to the Tin contractor since the door casings did not have the tin caps on yet.

Well I must be full of luck this week because the he was available as well to get the two doors capped and then the stone mason had door trim to work too.

I had to work fast to get door rough in done in time in the morning for the Tin contractor to work around....what a hectic day.

I am also levelling the subfloor so that the grade is at the correct elevation for subslab foam panels and concrete pour.

I chalked lined the foundation wall and then lay two long lengths of 2 inch pipe plumb to the chalk line, fill some b gravel in between the pipes and screeged the gravel plumb to the pipes.

I am sure there are other ways of getting a flat/plumb bed of gravel, but this the way I know how to do the work myself.

Took some time off from the build last weekend and took the family on a road trip to visit friends that live near a small town called "Vankleek Hill".

Saw an antique tractor plowing event and was given 2 boxes of local brew!

My kids love tractors and know that Tractors are Green, and trucks are red. However, they got to sit on the "blue" tractor, I made the photos antiqued so you don't see the blue!

Well my vacation from work is wrapping up, so progress is going to slow right down.

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Coming along nicely and Fords are blue! I have a 1947 Ford Ferguson but its gray!
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This is really interesting to me as I have always been curious as to how the foundations are built in really cold climates as compared to here in the Deep South. A frost line and snow loads are non existent down here.
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Fords are blue...ewwwie.

I am hoping to have a JD AR to rebuild in the shop.
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This is really interesting to me as I have always been curious as to how the foundations are built in really cold climates as compared to here in the Deep South. A frost line and snow loads are non existent down here.
This shop sits on 8"x 4'10" wall, with 6"x20" of slab under the wall.
Poured 9" wall for the brick ledge.
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Up here in the cold climates by the time a footing and frost wall are poured it is very cheap to go another 3' on the wall and gain a full 8' basement. Makes it by far the cheapest room in the house.
If you can do it as a walk-out . .
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A wall footing here in NW Illinois is 3' (1 meter) minimum with 4' or more the norm. And if you don't want the cold seeping down around the bottom you go with an 6' (2 meter) wall.
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Maybe I missed it but are you going with heated floors?
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Maybe I missed it but are you going with heated floors?

Yes, in-floor heating.

Levelling gravel base first, then installing "HotRocks" insulation panels (R10).

http://hotrockpanels.com/

I can PU panels direct from factory.

Hotrocks panels hold the PEX 1/2 tubing, then wire mesh and pour floor.

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