Cashflyer's Skybolt

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  1. Aug 10, 2011 #1

    cashflyer

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    Greetings.
    I just registered today and thought I should introduce myself to the group.

    About me:
    Born in '68, I am DOM at a Part 145 repair facility. I hold an A&P with inspector authorization. I am a commercial pilot, and formerly was also a CFII.

    I am the caretaker of our company owned Cessna 172N. We also have a 172M that I will be rebuilding this winter.

    About 12 years ago I rebuilt a KR-2 that had been left derelict. I never flew it, instead selling it onward to somebody who fit the cockpit better than I.

    About the plane:
    Last week, I purchased a partially completed project. I initially thought it was a Skybolt, but sent photos to David Stone at Steen and he identified it as a Firebolt.

    The fuselage is 95% complete and has an AEIO-360 engine.
    The wings are skeletons. Ribs are on the spars. Lower wings have leading and trailing installed, however the upper does not.

    As best as I can tell from the papers that I received, the project was active between 1992 and 1996. I don't find any receipts past 1996.

    There was considerable hangar dust collected on the wings, and now that I have them clean I have found two broken ribs, and varnish that is in generally poor condition. I will sand everything down, fix the ribs, and apply a fresh coat of EV-400.




    Regards.

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  2. Aug 10, 2011 #2

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    Welcome aboard!

    Just by coincidence, I happen to be visiting Charleston SC right now from Seattle.

     
  3. Aug 10, 2011 #3

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    Sounds like a Boeing trip. [​IMG]
     
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    Welcome aboard Cash, I to am working again on a Skybolt it is one that my brother in law started some years ago and brought it to me for finishing. It is powered by an O-540, and the fuselage is about where you are. But the lower wings are close to covering and the upper still needs a lot of work. Dave
     
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    I received a set of plans from Steen yesterday.
    Already, I see some differences between the plans and "as built".
    I'm sure I will have a lot of questions that I will post once I can get immersed in the project this weekend.


     
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    Well even though I have built two biplanes and have helped on many others including my son Dan's this is my first Skybolt and I have more than several questions.

    There were quite a number of differences between the standard Skybolt and the Firebolt version! Some I think are good and others maybe not. There are a lot of current and past builders on this site and most will steer you in the right direction. They all have opinions including me.

    It depends on what you want to do with this airplane?But until you have an inventory and your feet on the ground you may not be able to answer the next question.

    Are you going to build and finish it as a cruiser, with some mild acro in mind or do you want to do some serious aerobatics? The answer could be different for all three especially serious acro. If I can be of any assistance please ask.

    Dave

     
  8. Aug 13, 2011 #8

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    It could also be a Skybolt with Marquart Charger/Firebolt gear on it. Builders do all sorts of things to their projects (ask me :0)!).
    If it is determined to be a Firebolt, do what you can aggressively, to reduce weight, otherwise you will end up with a data plate like this:
    http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/displayimage.php?album=60&pos=61
    This was the most beautiful Firebolt I have ever seen, with I think 2 Silver EAA Lindys, but man, these things need to be much lower for empty weight....
     
  9. Aug 13, 2011 #9

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    Is that 1576 or 1676(!) empty weight?

    Lets see - the acro weight for a skybolt is 1650lbs...

    You have a nice looking airplane with a good head start. As beej says, keep it light.





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    1576. I could be wrong, but I don't think the published gross weight is 2220 for the firebolt, which is what is on that plate....builders in the U.S. it seems, can make up their own gross' to suit...I once saw an older Skybolt with empty @1470 and gross @ 2125
     
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    Dave,

    I have liked the look of the Skybolt and the Pitts for some time, so last year I booked some time with Steve Wolf in his Pitts S2B. After an hour of acro, I was sold on the whole idea of owning an acrobatic plane.

    But I am also aware that I am not in a position to be thinking about serious acro, competition, or anything like that. I see myself with a hotrod cruiser that is capable of some "gentleman's aerobatics".

    First, of course, is to get this one flying.

    I am just now finishing up some stuff at work (on a Saturday [​IMG] ) and plan to bust out the blueprints as soon as I can get out to the hangar. I'll be taking photos and making notes, that I will post here as soon as I can.

    - cashflyer

    edit: If anyone has specific areas they would like me to photo and post, let me know.

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    Edit: I moved this to a new thread in the "wings" section.
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    Cashflyer...you're correct, was looking at the area for a possible move. Love the area, only drawback, is very few small airports in the area. Hanger space is higher than Seattle. Goes with limited hanger space I guess.






    You'll be in the air in no time with that project.


    I also like the sheet metal all the way to the aft of the rear pit.Edited by: StinsonPilot
     
  14. Aug 14, 2011 #14

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    Doug,

    When my uncle was stationed at Charleston AFB, he settled in Summerville. It's about 15 miles drive from Summerville to Boeing, and it's not a bad little town. Moncks Corner is a little further, but puts you right at Lake Moultrie.

    You're right about public airports being somewhat sparse down there. On the larger side, there is Charleston Int'l (CHS), Mt. Pleasant regional(LRO), and Charleston Exec (JZI). Smaller, municipal or county airports include Moncks Corner (MKS), Summerville (DYB), and St. George (6J2).

    There are several smaller, private airstrips in the area. You may be able to find space on one of them at a reasonable price.

    Soouth Carolina has a fly-in "breakfast club" that you may be interested in if you move here: http://www.flyscbc.com/





     
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    Understood. I would go back and correct it, but I don't see an "edit" link on that post. What is the window of opportunity to edit on this forum?
     
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    Hey Cash,
    I'm not that smart, but I just spent all day prepping my drag wires for paint, you might consider painting your drag wires to prevent corrosion.. just an idea.
     
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    <you might consider painting your drag wires..unless they're stainless...
    There is a 3 day window for editing a previous post.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion. I'll hit them with some 2-part primer when I prime the aluminum in the aileron cove.


     
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    I am interested in a Firebolt, or something similar, to buy, not build. But I am not sure I understand your comment about weight. I realize that a lighter plane will perform acro better. But if I were not interested in flying much acro, why would it matter? And you seem to question the Gross Weight as well. Can you help or point me to somewhere where I can learn about these issues? Building is not an option for me. Thanks.
     

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