Dekups Paint System

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  1. Apr 2, 2018 #1

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    Hey. I bought a starter kit. Mainly so I can paint inverted when required. One question I have is, what are the 5 disc magnets for in the starter kit?:confused:
     
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    I called DeVilbiss. The magnets are for attaching supplies receptacles to structures, like sides of toolboxes.
     
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    Do you have the adapter that goes to the spray gun, that holds the cups?

    I know Sata (for their older guns) and 3M have adapters for their cup systems. To fit different spray gun makes.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Beej. Any reason you went that way rather then the PPS system ? I’ve used both and much prefer PPS
     
  6. Apr 3, 2018 #6

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    Kendall, I don't know about either one so why do you think PPS is better than DeKups?
     
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    After some brief researching on spraying forums/amazon reviews, I chose DeKups because it was a bit like Ford V Chevy... and I already had the DeKups adapter that came with the gun. I have the big starter kit now, so no turning back!
     
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    Been using the Dekups system with my Tekna Pro Lite. So much less hassle. Just wipe down the plastic holder and toss the liner. Seems to eliminate a lot of trash on the gun side of things.
     
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    From my experience.
    If you have never used any of these two, then it makes no issue.

    But if you have tried both, then using the 3M PPS system is easier to use. The lids have the filter built in (full lid area filtration). Clamping the cup lid to the gun adapter is easier.

    3M was the first to develop and introduce the disposable cup liner system and have the patent rights stuck within a vice, no one can get there.

    Iwata, DeVilbiss and Sata to mention a few can't quite match the ease of use as with the 3M PPS system.


    Again, if you have never used the PPS system it's of no issue. Your going to like anyone that you have, as compared to the old traditional aluminum or nylon gravity cup.

    I am sure if you YouTube any of the manufacturers you will get more info.
    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIC2fuUAP4E[/ame]
     
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    We use PPS in 2 sizes.
     
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    Yes. I do and that’s what all my painters have preferred over the years. Every time we go with another manufacturer we always come back to PPS after the first box is used. I gave up years ago. It just works.
     
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    Curiosity got me and I watched the video that taff posted.
    That system looks pretty neat!

    Not from the cleanup point that they keep pushing, because the only difference is that you are not cleaning the paint cup. You still have to clean the gun, and I hope that they clean their gun better than the little squirt that they gave it in the video. How much extra effort is there to clean the cup? [rolling eyes]

    What I liked about it is being able to spray at any angle with no spills and no flow problems. Last time I did a lot of overhead work, I was using a pressure pot system. This looks like a lot less trouble, and there are no supply lines to tangle up or to be cleaned afterward.
     
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    That little squirt is normally sufficient solvent to rinse the cavity leading to behind the fluid tip, including the needle. Normally good between applications. We used to field strip the gun at the end of the day and soak the aircap in MEK or acetone, it's important to keep that clean.

    Think of a production shop, changing colors all day.
    Not so much the effort but it's the time and the solvent and cloths used to clean the cup. Think of all the solvent being sprayed (wasted and not allowed in some parts of the country) when cleaning the traditional cup.
     
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    Yeah - I guess for a production shop it does make sense.

    Mostly in my shop I only paint 'components'.
    I use an HVLP touch-up gun, and am not doing the volume that would dictate such a system. I do a complete strip and clean of my guns after every job (because I am usually only doing one job that day).
     
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    we also use the PPS system. its what I used on my plane and what we use here at the shop on all paint projects. good choice giving either product a try, its way better than the traditional method!
     
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    Ok. I’m interested enough to ask a couple of questions about the PPS system.

    What size (micron) filter should be used when spraying UV coat (poly spray) to be sure the material needed makes its way to the fabric?

    Is a difference micron filter cup needed for the Topcoat?

    Does the filtered cup change the pressure requirement into the Gun?

    I’m using polyfiber with Ranthane topcoat.

    Thanks for posting. I guess I’ve been doing it the hard way.
    Dan.
     
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    I'll try to answer.

    The initial cost of the system, 3M or anyone else's is steep, if your painting less than 1 quart per day.
    The more you spray the cheaper it becomes because it's all about gun cleaning time and cleaning solvent consumed every time you change colors or dump paint. The liners and lids are the cheapest part of the system, these are the consumables.

    *The PPS comes as cup and collar (not the consumable)
    *The soft plastic liner and the lid (consumable, throw away, you don't clean).
    *Available in 3 sizes packages, that is large, medium and mini.
    *Two lid sizes, one for the large and medium cup, it's just the cup depth that is bigger and there's the small lid size for the mini cup and collar.

    *Adapters. You will need a special adapter that fits into the entry of your gravity spray gun (all manufacturers have them available to suite their particular lid) The adapter will be selected based on your make and model of spray gun.

    *There is a Type H/O cup and collar available. I used this (it's a pressure feed cup) with my electric turbine HVLP.

     
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    Thanks Taff.
     
  19. Apr 5, 2018 #19

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    I'll let ya all know how I get on with the DeKups system.. :)
     
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    I used Dekups. They worked fine.
     

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