My Great Lakes Sport Trainer build is going to begin!

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  1. Feb 17, 2018 #41

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    LotaHP and Flexiflyer,
    I asked some specific questions about the drawings and how to get them on the Great Lakes yahoo group. I will let you know what I find out.
    Best to you guys
    Mike Townsley
     
  2. Jun 11, 2018 #42

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    The Great Lakes yahoo group has moved to a new improved location: Go to www.wacoaircraft.com then click on the "About" folder at the top, scroll down to "Forums", then scroll down to "Original Great Lakes Group". Save to favorites so you will go right to the forum every time. Its just getting started and is well attended.
     
  3. Jun 21, 2018 #43

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    Mike,

    I'm curious as to why anyone would want to build up wood ribs when a set of aluminum ribs can be formed in a weekend once the blocks are made. I spent about 4 hours making the forms for my Thorp ribs and another 8 hours to produce the ribs. Is there a structural advantage that I'm not aware of?
     
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    So Round, Long, or new engine?
     
  5. Jul 10, 2018 #45

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    Dana,
    Maybe I should look into making them out of aluminum? No structural advantage. The reason I was thinking wood was I have built wood ribs before, never formed alum ribs before.
    Clay, I was thinking a Lycoming 4 cylinder engine. Trying to keep it very light.
    I still have not got started building. My life is has been too busy.
    Mike
     
  6. Jul 10, 2018 #46

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    Hi Guys and gals,
    I have not found out much of anything about buying a set of Great Lakes Sport Trainer Plans. It seems that John Duncan is not selling them. I don't think Waco is. You might be able to get a set from Harvey Swack. I don't think Harvey checks his email very often. The only other alternative is to get a set from someone who has a set they are willing to give up. I do not want to copy mine for fear of a law suit. Dana did you find a set ?
    Thanks
    Mike Townsley
     
  7. Oct 30, 2018 #47

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    Great Lakes Sport Trainer Plans. Please see the attached pictures. Willing to sell. Email TJAJ03@GMAIL.COM and I'll send you pictures of what I have.
     

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    Tom,
    I'm interested in the plans. You can PM me for contact info and details.
    Dana LaBounty
     
  9. Nov 2, 2018 #49

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    I'm still looking for a set of plans if anyone has any that they are not going to build an airplane from. I only really need the fuselage drawings. I already have the CD as a last resort but would prefer original prints or good copy of the fuselage same size as original drawings. I will cover all expenses. Anyone???
     
  10. Nov 4, 2018 #50

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    Below is a list of the Great Lakes Sport Training Plans for sale on Ebay.

    1931-1932 Production Aircraft Sport Trainer/Hinge Detail/ Stabilizer trim tab detail/specifications

    Center Section Trailing Edge Ribs Great Lakes 2T1, 2T1A

    Wingtip Rib Upper Outer Wing, Model 2T-1, Dec 4, 1967, B60473 / B60474

    Nose Rib Wing Upper Outer, Lower, Model 2T-1, A61157

    NOSE RIB UPPER CENTER WING, MODEL 2T-1, A60451

    BUTT RIB LOWER WINGS, MODEL 2T-1,NOV 20,1967, B60487/B60488

    BUT RIB UPPER OUTER WING, MODEL 2T-1, NOV 20 1967, B60471/B60472

    OUTBOARD RIB OF CENTER SECTION BOX RIB ASSY, MODEL 2T-1, NOV 17 1967, F60453/F60454

    INBOARD RIB OF CENTER SECTION BOX RIB ASSY, MODEL 2T-1, NOV 18, 1967, G60455/G60456

    WING FRAME MODIFICATIONS FOR FOUR AILERONS MODEL 2T-IA,E PARTIAL DRAWING REF, P60533,4, P60559,10, P60351,2, MARCH 21, 1971, A CHANGE DATED 4-23-71

    COMPLETE ASSEMBLY, MODEL 2T-1, 2T-1A, 6/25/1968, R63226/R63227

    OUTER INTERPLANE STRUT ASSY, D63213

    CIRRUS MOTOR MOUNT, R63205-06

    RUDDER PEDAL WELL, 2T1-2T1A, MARCH 18,1967, A66003

    SHAFT ASSEMBLY STABILIZER CONTROL, 2T1, 2T-1A-E, B-60420-G

    FRONT & REAR (ILLEGIBLE) ASSEMBLY, B65679

    BALANCE SCHEDULE. 10-3-1930

    CONSTRUCTION LAYOUT REAR HINGE FITTING UPPER OUTER WING, 2T-1, C60587/C60588

    CONSTRUCTION LAYOUT HINGE FITTING REAR LOWER WING, 2T-1A, C60547/60548

    UPPER OUTER-FRONT HINGE FITTING, 2T-1, C60585/60586

    STA.5 FRONT UPPER WING, 2-T1, C60581/C60582

    UPPER REAR CENTER SECTION UPER WING, MODEL 2T-1A, D60463/D60464

    SPARS-UPPER OUTER WINGS, P-60559/P60560

    HINGE FITTING UPPER CENTER FRONT BEAM, MODEL 2T-1A, D60465/D60466

    SPARS FOR UPPER CENTER WING FRONT & REAR, F60468/F60467

    UPPER CENTER WING FRAME ASM., MODEL 2T-1, NOV 12,1965, D-60466

    FRONT SPAR-LOWER OUTER WING, P60533/P60534

    REAR SPAR ā€“ LOWER OUTER WING, P60537/P60538

    WINDSHIELD GREAT LAKES 2T-1A E, OCT 14, 1970

    FUSELAGE FRAME ASSEMBLY SECT #2, MODEL 2T-1, R-60700

    STABILIZER FRAME ASSEMBLY, 2T-1A, 2T-1, 2T1-E, D-63219

    ELEVATOR FRAME ASSEMBLY, 2T-1A, G63220

    RUDDER FRAME ASSEMBLY, 2T-1A, 2T-1, 2T1-E, D-63215

    FIN FRAME ASSEMBLY, 2T-1A, 2T-1, 2T1-E, D-63216

    PANEL AFT REAR COCKPIT, B-60784

    FIREWALL LAYOUT GREAT LAKES 2T1,1A, APRIL 1967, A-66004

    LOWER FIREWALL FORMER GREAT LAKES 2T1-1A, MAY 1967,

    LOWER FAIRING BULKHEADS, B60334,B60760, B60762, B60761, B60763, A60765, A62168, A60759, ASSY & DETAILS, GREAT LAKES 2T1, 2T1A, 2T1E

    AXLE ASSEMBLY LANDING GEAR, C62349/C62350

    CABANE STRUTS ASSY., MODEL 2T-1, C60635/C60636

    FUEL TANK ASM. ALUMINUM. MODEL 2T-1A-E, R-60617

    G-60891, G-60890, F-60889, F-60888, A-60886, A-62234, A-62235

    AIRFRAME DETAILS, R-60480

    STANDARD RIB WINGS, N60339-40-4

    AILERON CONTROL TUBE/AILERON ASSEM

    FITTING STA 5 REAR LOWER WING, C60555/C60556

    STA.5 UPPER REAR UPPER WING, C60585/C60584

    CONSTRUCTION LAYOUT HINGE FITTING FRONT LOWER WING, C-60563/C-60564

    FITTING STA.5 LOWER FRONT LOWER WING, C60561/C60562

    POWER PLANT ASSEMBLY, P63223/P63229

    COMPLETE ASSEMBLY, R63228

    ELECTRICAL SYSTEM SCEMATIC N909N,

    CONTROL HORN, A-60135

    ENGINE MODIFICATION FOR GREAT LAKES 2T-1A. CIRRUS TO WARNER R-500-7 165HP

    HINGE (FEMALE) TAIL SURFACE, A-62514

    HINGE (MALE) LOWER RUDDER, A-62517

    SLEEVE-FRONT BEAM STABILIZER, A-60383

    COLLAR LOWER HINGE RUDDER, A63261

    BEAM SUPPORT STABILIZER, A-60385

    PIN TAIL SURFACE HINGES, A-62511

    RUDDER ATTACMENT AT LOWER HINGE

    FITTING (FRONT BEAM) STABILIZER, A-60386

    MALE HINGE STABILIZER CENTER BEAM ELEVATOR HORN ASSEM, A63257

    HINGE(MALE) TAIL SURFACE, A-62515

    SPACER-REAR BEAM STABILIZER, A60396

    SLEEVE-FRONT BEAM STABILIZER, A60384

    BUSHING TAIL SUFACE HINGES, A-62513

    TYPICAL RUDDER +ELEVATOR RIB + METHOD OF FASTENING 016 RIBS ON TAIL SURFACES SK-1256

    PIN LOWER RUDDER HINGE, A-62512

    GUSSET-RIB ELEVATOR, A-60393

    BEAM AILERON, A-60360

    BEARING BRACKET AILERON CONTROL, A-60639

    SPECIAL BOLT AILERON, A-60432

    BEARING BLOCK AILERON HINGE, A-60752

    AILERON HINGE ASSEMBLY, B60751

    STRAP AILERON HINGER, A-60753

    FRONT FLYING WIRE LUG, B60875/B60876

    STEEL STRAP AILERON HINGE, A60754

    COCKPIT COAMING REAR

    FLOOR A-63346

    COCKPIT COAMING FRONT

    FLOOT BOARD FRONT COCKPIT, B60690

    FLYING WIRE ASSEMBLY, A63217, 63218

    STUD OUTER INTERPLANE STRUT, A63313

    SPACER RACKING WIRES CENTER SECTION, A62337

    BEARING DRAG STRUTS WINGS, A60502

    TRAILING EDGE UPPER WING, A-60572

    DRAG STRUT UPPER OUTER WING, A-60604

    END TURN UPPER WING, A-60575

    TUBER DRAG STRUT UPPER WING, A-60577

    STANDARD RIB UPER OUTER WING, B60469/B60470

    TUBE DRAG STRUT UPPER OUTER WING, A60603

    DRAG STRUT UPPER OUTER WING, A-60576

    DRAG WIRE LUG UPPER OUTER WING, A-60580

    DRAG WIRELUG UPPER WING, A60632

    TIE PLATE ā€“ TOP UPPER OUTERWING, A-60601

    DRAG WIRE LUG UPPEROUTER WING, A-60516

    DRAG WIRE LUG WINGS, A-60546

    DRAG WIRE LUG UPPER OUTER WING, A60578

    ā€œUā€ PLATE DRAG STRUT WINGS, A-60549

    DRAG WIRE LUG UPPER OUTER WING, A-60579

    BEARING DRAG STRUT WINGS, A-60503

    PIVOT BOLT DRAG FITTING WINGS, A-60552

    SLEEVE OUTER INTERPLANE STRUT, A63314

    SPECIAL NUT DRAG FITTING WINGS, A60558

    END TURN LOWER WINGS, A60532

    NUT DRAG FITTING WINGS, A60553

    UPPER COVER PLATE BOX RIB, A-62312

    PIVOT BOLT DRAG FITTING WINGS, A-60554

    SPECIAL NUT DRAG FITTIING LOWER WING, A-60945

    PLUG DRAG STRUT ASSEM-WINGS, A60545

    DRAG STRUT ASSEM LOWER WINGS, A-60498

    DRAG STRUT LOWER WING, B60495

    SPECIAL NUT-DRAG FITTING LOWER WING, A-60946

    DRAG WIRE LUG-STA6 LOWER WING, A60530

    BOX RIB LOWER WING, B62305/B62306

    DRAG WIRE LUG LOWER WING, A60531

    DRAG STRUT ASSEM LOWER WINGS, A60499

    BOTTOM COVER PLATE BOX RIB, A-62310

    DRAGSTRUT TUBE LOWER WINGS, A60501

    END RIB CLIP LOWER WING, A-62313

    DRAG STRUT ASSEM WINGS, A-60543

    DRAG WIRE LUG LOWER WING A-60591

    DRAG STRUT TUBE WINGS, A60544

    DRAG STRUT TUBE LOWER WINGS, A60500

    TORQUE COLLAR AILERON, A-60362

    DRAG STRUT ASSEM STA 5. UPPER WING, B60589/B60590

    RIB COLLAR AILERON, A60531

    CONSTRUCTION LAYOUT AILERON HINGE, B60749

    COLLAR AILERON CONTROL, A-60643

    AILERON HINGE ASSEMBLY, B60482

    BRACKET ASSEM AILERON CONTROL, A62351

    AILERON HING STA-6 COMPLETE ASSEMBLY B60483

    FUEL SYSTEM GREAT LAKES 440Y / DON TAYLOR
     
  11. Nov 8, 2018 at 4:39 PM #51

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    Figures a non airplane guy would end up with the plans with the only interest of how to make money off of them.
     
  12. Nov 9, 2018 at 1:35 PM #52

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    Aircraft grade plywood has all good plys. Hardware store and cabinet plywood will often hide inferior plys inside. The glue used in aircraft grade plywood will also withstand moisture better.
     

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