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Pitts S2 Experimental

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This sounds a little too good to be true.


1990 PITTS S2A EXPERIMENTAL • $49,000 • NEW PRICE! • 310 hours Total Time, 310 SMOH IO-360 200 HP Lycoming, Inverted Oil, Factory fuselage, sensenich fixed pitch prop, 4 into one exhaust, Raven Locking tail wheel, aux fuel, King kx125 com radio, King kt76 transponder, intercom, 2 parachutes included, hooker harness, rigged by former Pitts factory mechanic: flys hands off. Price Firm!! • Contact Joe A. Dory, Friend of Owner - located Star, ID USA • Telephone: 208-484-7782 . • Posted May 20, 2015

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We talked about this one in another thread. Wes wondered about engine dash #/fixed pitch prop. Does indeed seem decent.

Jack
 

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If that prop is metal there was never a Sensinich aluminum fixed prop certified on a 200hp. Just went through this on a RV8 with a solid crank I0-360 200hp. From my research it's been done over the years but Sensinich never approved it. I'd install a Catton or Performace and be done.
 

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I inquired about this airplane and got four gibberish emails sent from Mr. Dory's cell phone. My reply was never answered. I need to try again, using my phone this time.........
 

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Check out "pops" Dory on SuperCub.org.
Quite the off airport pilot.
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Is the prop what makes it experimental ? Ive never heard of a S-2A that wasn't certified
 

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The FAA records say unknown airworthiness and category. It could be just a website issue.

It may be worth getting the FAA data CD to see what's there to avoid any paperwork issues if someone is serious. It could be a really neat airplane.
 

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What makes it experimental if started as S2A?
From the pictures:
Propeller, 4 into 1 exhaust, tailwheel, cowl doors, lower cowl, oil cooler location, fuel servo inlet, no fuel quantity gauge, all appear non standard.
A neat airplane
 

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Is the prop what makes it experimental ? Ive never heard of a S-2A that wasn't certified
My guess is that this is truly a homebuilt S-2E that he called and S-2A because he though more people would know what an S-2A was. Just my.02.

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One may call an E-AB anything you want. He says it has a factory S2A Fus. One may start with that and then must satisfy 51% rule.......whatever, AWC/FAA file should tell.

As Wes explained the prop. issue, it seemed to me to be a concern. OTOH the crank seems to have survived for several 100 hours. Is it a hand grenade or good to go even with another prop.......? Too rich for me anyway

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At the date that the airplane was certified there were no factory S-2A's being built. The last S-2A was shipped in about 1981 as the price difference between the S-2A and the S-2B was small enough that all of the buyers were ordering 260hp S-2B's at that point.

An S-2E is built using factory components, including the welded fuselage. That history makes building an E-AB S-2x using a fuselage from a wreck a relatively easy sell to the FAA so long as you do the other 51%.

So this ship is likely Experimental Amateur Built. Jerr888's sharp eyes have identified the add-ons that the builder incorporated.

It does look like an interesting airplane. I wonder whether it has the short engine mount or the long one?

Best of luck,

Wes
 

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The USA registry lists S2-E aircraft in many different ways. At one point I did some research and there were many variations in the nomenclature. The Original S2-E was i believe intended for a fixed pitch prop and a 180 HP engine. Some builders could have put in a 200 HP Lycoming with a constant speed and said it was an S2-A. This one might be a mix...i.e. 200 HP but with a fixed pitch prop. It all depends on what was available at the time of construction and at what price...perhaps.
 

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I wish I was in a position to be serious. Wes is right on, mount may be issue? Wrong mount coupled w/fixed pitch could cause a CG issue. One would want to carefully look at W&B.

I've seen "innovative" "fixes" which usually add useless weight to get things in balance.

It sure is interesting.

Jack
 

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Engine mount for this installation: Of the 2 factory mounts-
1-There is no correct mount
2-There is no incorrect mount
Angle engine adds 25# to nose. S2E kit engine was meant to have 20# starter, the lyc alternator, and 2 6V batteries that weighed total 20# behind seat. It should be no problem to substitute modern accessories, if not already there, and battery location so CG stays in range?
Jerry
 

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For sale again by same guy 2 years later. Was there a verdict on this one? Price dropped. Guessing there was a reason it didn't sell before?
 

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For sale again by same guy 2 years later. Was there a verdict on this one? Price dropped. Guessing there was a reason it didn't sell before?
I sent a question and only got a one sentence answer. 2A's are rare as hens teeth so it should be an easy sale but something about it feels not right. I would have thought if this was my machine I'd be able to sell it in a heartbeat if it was all ok. Even at $49K it was a great price, to turn up two yrs later at $45K, something doesn't add up. I hope I'm wrong and it turns out to be an awesome machine. I was keen but without the aerobatic crank and constant speed prop I don't think its for me.
 

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Someone needs to go buy it for $40,000 and resell for $65,000 before I do!
 

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