Prototype ultimate comes back home

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    Bond007

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    I bought back the prototype ultimate,that I restored a few years back.
    This is the first ultimate that Gordon built
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    My opinion , it is the best one you've done ,and is without a doubt the most performance of any Bi-wing with four cylinders that I have ever witnessed!
     
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    The Parallel valve Barrett 220 hp engine does not hurt performance any
    She is a beast at 790 pounds
    Danny 007
     
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    Danny, how would she compare to the S1T that Tony over at Specialty Aero finished up a while back? Or really any S1 with wolf mods.

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    Compaired to a stock T ,there is no compairson.It will fly circles around it.
    As far as a wolf wing stock S1.It will also out perform it .what u have to know is that a ultimate is very different than a regular S1
    They have the belly cut flat,they of course have the wing,that has ailrons that Al most touch the fuselog sides,the wing is a different airfoil,the turtle deck is cut down,the cowl is cleaned up,the rudder and vertical stab are bigger,they have the extra flying wires on the rear spar,the plane is rated at 8.5 POS. and 8.5 neg.
    How does this all translate into flight
    The plane will turn a corner better than anything I've ever flown,snaps better than a Pitts wing,has a roll rate as good as most monplanes,has a better roll rate at stall speed faster than a stock s1S at flying speed.
    Keep in mind this is the prototype,and only weighs 790.most true Ultimates weigh much more,and do not fly as good.
    I love the plane,and have yet to fly any 4 cly biplane that will fly even close to this one
    Danny 007
     
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    Too bad the other ones got heavier. It's pretty amazing to me actually how every homebuilt plane design that's at all popular just gets heavier and heavier over the years.

    Glad you got her back! I'd love to swing by and see her one of these days.
     
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    Iam going to fly it this year in competition.
    Come on and check it out
    Danny 007
     
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    Awesome looking plane. Any clues on where all the extra weight is on the ones built after this one?
     
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    Hi Danny, is it really an Ultimate with both wings swept or a Pitts with Ultimate wings? Awesome looking plane. Do you have more pictures of it?

    Most "real" Ultimates are heavier due to the CS prop ans heavy glass fiber parts
     
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    Hi Danny, is it really an Ultimate with both wings swept or a Pitts with Ultimate wings? Awesome looking plane. Do you have more pictures of it?

    Most "real" Ultimates are heavier due to the CS prop ans heavy glass fiber parts
     
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    Yes,Gordon Price went to the angle valve ,and constant speed prop.Also a double swept wing,and control systems that lowered and rasied the ailrons as u pushed on pulled Gs
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    As I said this is the prototype,it started life as a Pitts S1,
    Gordon Price built this airplane
    I have a Canadian log book for the plane of every flight it made.
    Gordon would take it to the Nationals,and Oshkosh,and let the top pilots of the day fly it.He was trying to sell the kits and planes
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    Is this the airplane?

    Description
    Registration N36MD
    Serial Number 117HP
    Status Valid
    Manufacturer Name PRICE GORDON
    Model ULTIMATE WINGS PITTS
    MFR Year 1978
    Engine Manufacturer LYCOMING
    Classification Experimental
    Engine Model O&VO-360 SER
    Category Amateur Built
     
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    Yup... a 1080 pound Skybolt morphed into a 1571 pound Firebolt.:(
     
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    All that performance parked in Intermediate. Somebody didn't take to heart your great article in the latest IAC mag. :)
     
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    Thanks for the further info. So basicly it's a Pitts S1 with all Ultimate mods, not a "real" Ultimate.

    The Ultimate (as you said) also had an angle valve engine and CS prop, but also a completely different fuselage. Tube lenght between the joints are longer, the tube size was increased to allow for the higher g-tolerance etc. But only the wing kit ist certified by Transport Canada for +/-8.5 g, not the complete airplane.

    Since the Ultimates tend to getting beefy I try to cut weight were ever it is possible. Parallel Valve, Oratex fabric, plywood LE and only basic Instruments. I still think about the CS-prop. My govenour is freshly rebuild, nur a Prince Prop would also be a nice alternative.
     
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    Yes Kevin it is
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    Eric don't be jealous ,just because your 6.6 tall butt can not fit in it.When it's hot we are going to take the canopy off and get u a set of goggles ,and let u ring it out
    Danny 007
     
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    I can't wait to get mine flying...although I'm estimating mine will be about 40lbs heavier.
     
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    Danny, you’re sandbagging!
     
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