"Video Camera for Easy Taxiing"

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    Eric_Anderson

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    That was from a current Model 12 ad in Barnstormers. The only other time I have heard that used as a selling point was for the A380.
     
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    a guy put one on a Stinson v77 we had here in the shop.
     
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    Actually, the first airplane that I know they put that on was the Firecracker racer replica that was done in Bill Turner's Repeat Aircraft shop at Flabob in CA.

    Not a bad idea. Pat Halloran would land in the Firecracker, flip up his video screen to display the camera view out of the nose, and taxi, being confident he would not bump into anyone.

    These days RV backup cameras are inexpensive. If you could put a wifi camera in the nose, and display the picture on your tablet, it might allow skipping S-turns to see the guy in front of you in line.

    The F-35 takes it to the next level. There are cameras all around the airplane and the computer knows which direction the pilot's helmet is pointing. Look at the floor of the cockpit and the computer puts the view that the belly camera sees down, on the helmet mounted display. So the pilot can see what is below the airplane without moving the airplane. Same for looking back.

    Pretty cool technology.

    Wes
     
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    I just installed a camera in my monoplane. Our airpark has some challenges which made my taxi more stressful than necessary. Our taxi to the runway is on a narrow taxiway that goes down a hill and is shared with vehicles. I always worried I wouldn't spot something smaller than a UPS truck going down the hill until it was too late. The camera I installed is .75"x.75" and weighs about 5oz including the wifi transmitter. It only draws 180ma, and I view it on my phone that attaches to my sequence card holder for taxi. The whole thing cost about $55 and installed in 30 minutes. I'm super happy with it so far.





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    Marshall,
    Which camera is it and is it on all the time or??
     
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    I am too young to be a dinosaur.

    But I am.
     
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    I've thought about this a lot. Cameras keep getting better and cheaper, and since they send wifi, you can display the signal on a cellphone or tablet, which I pretty much always have with me. I'm tempted to do something like this on the Charger when the time comes. The Champ doesn't need anything, since its nose is low enough that taxiing isn't a problem.
     
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    Lord almighty what is this world coming to! But in all honesty I am mounting one on the back of my boat as I can't see the swim platform during docking and I back in to my slip almost blind now. I have to walk to the back of the helm station to see down and still can't see the dam platform and it sticks out about 3'.
     
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    Totally understand Eric. It wasn’t until I moved to the airpark that this was a desired item. It’s just an additional tool that helps increase my situational awareness. I’d rather not find the neighbor kids basketball with my propeller!
     
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    Maybe on the back of my tractor so I don't have to crank my neck backing up.
     
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    I’m pretty sure Matt from MGL avionics has a Black Christen Eagle with a lipstick type camera in the gear leg fairing, pretty slick.
     
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    I think Charles Lindbergh had one ,but of coarse only using mirrors
    Danny 007
     
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    Why not just do good S turns? Yet another way to suck pilots inside the cockpit instead of using these two things we have jammed into the front of our faces.....eyeballs!!!
     
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    I do S-turns. But the problem is that some airports have taxi-ways so narrow that you risk getting off them and/or getting stuck as you S-turn. And then there are fly-ins where they pack you in, or people wander in front of you, so that you fear eating something or someone with your prop.

    This new technology can make life with old technology easier.

    Best of luck,

    Wes
     
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    One infamous Pitts vs. Pitts head on happened on the wide taxi way/ramp area of KGYI, Grayson County Airport, during the Nationals around 1993. Both guys were S turning and looking out but still managed to collide right in front of Don Ort's hangar and several horrified witnesses (me included). I know two other taxi accidents that could be avoided had this type of technology been available.

    Normally I am one of the first people to become rabidly allergic to any new techno toy but this is good stuff.
     
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    When I'm ready to taxi and fly I will be taxiing on a narrow way.
    If anyone has a make/model number of a decently priced camera and viewer, that would be good.
     
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    Here's what I installed. These will likely get smaller, better, and cheaper going forward. One caution, since these are designed as backup cameras the factory setting is for a mirror image. Make sure you follow the instructions to switch to forward facing mode or left will be right, which could make for an interesting taxi experience.

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    Marshal.
    Thanks for the feedback. When the time comes, I will install one of these units.
    Photo's of part of my rout to the runway.

    I had no issue sitting in the front seat of the Citabria but maybe in the rear of the Skybolt I will need the extra eye out for safety.

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    Eric,

    What a beautiful place you've got! I have no trouble with my Cessna 170 or Thorp, but I sit further back in the Acro and the wing tips are much lower. The camera reduces the likelihood of bumping in to something and makes for a less stressful taxi.

    This is the hill on our street.

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    Here are some of the taxiway edge markers

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    Not much room to swing the nose out of the way

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    It looks like we're in the same boat/situation for taxiing.
    But it beats driving to the county airport.

    I figured out some time ago, that it's all compromise. :)
     

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