What to build... ?

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    spatsch

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    A little bit about myself. I live in NJ fly out of Sky Manor with a none biplane I build (RV-8). Looking who is positing here some of you know me already.... .

    The reason I joined is that I am getting antsy again wanting to build something else. I decided that this time around I want to do a plan build project, preferably steel/wood/fabric. As for flying characteristics I am looking for something with one seat I can do sportsman/intermediate acro with that fits into the LSA restrictions (1320lb max takeoff, 51mph stall, 138mph VNE, fixed pitch). Not to worried about Vne as that's just were I draw the red line before certification but the remainder needs to fit the airplane I choose.

    Looking around it seems there are a couple of candidates this forum covers which fit that profile. Was thinking of the Acrosport 1 (seems difficult to get plans right now though) or maybe a one seat version of an Acrosport 2 (just admired Chris's on Sunday). If you have any suggestions I should check out I would appreciate it.

    Thx

    Oliver
     
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    If I had those criteria, I’d build a Skyote if I could afford the new kits, and a Rose Parakeet if I couldn’t.
     
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    Hey welcome to the forum Oliver and nice meeting you sunday! you know what my vote is for :D
     
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    Oliver! The dark side. Welcome!
     
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    Welcome Oliver!
     
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    I'd vote for the AS2. I only have one question and don't recall if I have seen an answer. Does a AS2 meet the LSA stall speed at 1320#?

    (I would assume it does since even my AD2 with only 130 ft2 of wing area does so...barely)

    You would also have the option of 2 place at some time.

    Jack
     
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    I think the AS1 does meet LSA for stall speed. I'm not sure why you would want to build the AS2 as a single place LSA as it will only cost more money to build.
     
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    I have my gross at 1350 and it meets the stall speed easily. light airplane, big wing.
     
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    Because theres some cool parts he could use then...... ;)
     
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    What's the useful load? As I am a healthy eater it would be nice to have 350lb for me and fuel so that puts empty at 1000lb or below.

    Thx for all the suggestions!

    Oliver
     
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    If I remember correctly the LSA limit is 1320#.

    >>Because theres some cool parts he could use then...... ;)<<

    Forgot about that option.............
     
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    my empty weight as equipped is 985....... that is including engine oil and 1/2 gal of smoke oil I couldn't get out.
     
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    Fly upside down more. That should get it.
     
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    welcome to the forum Oliver.

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    Welcome Oliver, we flew the box day together last year, glad to see you here. I had a Eagle at the time.
     
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    And you missed this past Sunday because.........??? ;)
     
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    Welcome to the club, Oliver!
     
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    I don’t have anything to go upside down in, im working on something but don’t want to park near you or Jim lol
     
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    Welcome to the forum Oliver,

    I think its only a matter of time before an S1 Pitts shows up to fit the LSA parameters. I know this has been beat to death but I believe its is not that far from being done. My Pitts is 860#s and stalls at 60. How much more wing would it take to get it down to 51? Or how much weight would it have to loose? Just a thought.

    Curtis.
     
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    Little Stinker in its original form had a wingspan of 16'10"" and was 568 empty. With S1D wing area and some weight saving technology I believe the S1C could be built at 500# with a non electric C85 with Catto or similar prop. At 500 empty it should have no problem meeting LSA stall. Top speed depends on how good a story teller you are. Another option is the well established protocol to simply restrict power via placards to meet max speed.
     
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